Anna Thalman 0:09

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Kent Thalman 0:19

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Anna Thalman 0:22

Let's jump right in. Okay. This podcast episode is called a finished film or your money back. So, what we're talking about is our film and family academy. It's something that we mentioned a lot, but we don't usually get very specific about it for the sake of time. our podcast tends to focus more on theoretical discussion, but this program is for people who are ready to move beyond that into more practical application, we usually recommend if that's the case that you check out the film and family academy.

Kent Thalman 0:56

Yeah. And so we're getting really deep into this practical stuff. Right. And what we want to do. A program that combines both. It's not necessarily theory and history, that stuff, we hope you have some experience that you've seen a few movies in your lifetime and that, you know, what a camera is, but here's what the guarantee of this program. Is that if you follow each step that is taught in the program, you'll have a finished feature film by the end, or give you your money back now, what does by the end mean? And what does by the end of it? Well, we'll

Anna Thalman 1:33

get into that and exactly what the program entails, but there's no deadline on that money back guarantee. and, and we'll talk about how you can kind of self pay. Through the program. So, first of all, I just want to mention, if you haven't checked out our, make your feature film checklist, it's a free resource that we came out with this year. You can go download it. It's available@wwwdotinvisiblemansion.com forward slash free checklist. The reason you'll want to check that out is because this checklist, first of all, is just a great resource. You can, click the boxes and it will check them and you can save your progress, and just keep it somewhere nearby to see where you're at. But also this checklist forms the framework that we follow in the film and family academy. So it breaks it all down into the whole process from beginning to end of making it. And two nine stages.

Kent Thalman 2:31

These stages, aren't going to blow your mind when we read them to you, they're going to sound really intuitive, so the first stage is called prepare yourself. And we're not going to go into at this very moment, what is in that stage, but we have a few preparatory things that we think everyone should know to get ready, to make a feature film, go get the

Anna Thalman 2:47

checklist so you can look over those

Kent Thalman 2:49

second stage is writing a script. Three is assembling a team. Four is building a pitch. Deck five is securing financing. So getting the money that you need to make the film, whatever that is. Six is doing pre-production. and so the pitch deck and the securing of financing is what would be usually considered prep as well as assembling the key crew and then pre production that phase where you finalize a lot of the crew, you start to spend money during pre production and really building things out. Anyway, most of us understand what the word pre-production means. moving on number seven is production. Which means you shoot it. Number eight is post-production, which means you edit it among many other things. we go into all the details and post-production, if you know anything about filmmaking, you're probably rolling your eyes. And number nine is distribution. So distribution means. Festivals selling the movie. Self-distributing the movie, you're getting it out there. You're showing it. And really that is what makes a filmmaker. A filmmaker is someone who makes films and shares them with other people. and that's the only way you're going to get a viable career. And so if you want a viable career making feature films, you do these steps and you do it, but that's not all the checklist. Yeah.

Anna Thalman 4:09

These are not the steps. These are the stages. Yeah. The section. So each section has specific steps that you'll need to take to complete that stage of the production. So some of them are really short. I think two of them only have five steps. That's intentional. We want to make this as simple and doable as we can. the longest section is pre-production that one has 28 steps, but most of them are less than 20. We've tried to keep it simple.

Kent Thalman 4:38

So I've been there that I think most people find to be the most enigmatic, other than, I mean, screenwriting in general is probably financing.

Anna Thalman 4:49

We break that into

Kent Thalman 4:51

smaller steps. Break that into lots of smaller steps. We go into detail about how to approach that. And even on that free PDF checklist, I think you'll see some simple. But truly effective principals there regarding how to get the financing that you need. And we know it works because we've done it. So we go into more details into that, into the film and family academy, but the PDF, check it out, read it, see what you. Yeah. And

Anna Thalman 5:18

you'll kind of see, as you look through it that some steps vary in difficulty, one step is choose a screenwriting software. That's that could be done. Yeah. And maybe you already know what you like to use.

Kent Thalman 5:30

It might already be

Anna Thalman 5:31

done. Yeah. And then there's steps. Like one of the pre-production steps is stripped board, the entire film, which is a huge process that can be extremely time

Kent Thalman 5:40

consuming. Days, if not weeks to district board the entire

Anna Thalman 5:45

script, it's one step on our checklist and we have some tips for you there. but making a feature film is hard work. It's not a small undertaking. And for that reason, we intentionally made this guide as. Simple and straightforward as we can, breaking down the whole process into small digestible steps. So you can just do one at a time.

Kent Thalman 6:09

Yeah. And so there are a lot of, I think most of you listening to this podcast. Have either started prepping feature films. You have ideas for feature films. You might have scripts already written for feature films. you've probably shot shorts or commercials, or you might've gone to film school already, or you may not have gone to film school, but you've maybe started a film career already. You might have a seat, a lot of sets, or you may have worked on feature films, but you want to. Maybe you, they see a lot of feature films and you want a DP one, and you need to create a program or sorry, creative project that puts you in that position as a feature film cinematographer, or you want to direct one, or you want to produce it. This is for anyone who wants to just create a viable career in feature films, and you need to start getting into. The position you want to play on the kind of film feature films that you want to make. and so that is essentially what this checklist does, and this is what the program is all about.

Anna Thalman 7:10

So once you've looked over that checklist, if you find that you know how to do every single step on there, you might not need this program. you can just take the check. Go make your movie and that's great, but most likely you'll look over it and see some steps that you don't feel completely confident in your ability to execute, or you might want more detailed guidance. And if that's the case, that's what the film and family program is for. It's I guess you could call it maybe like the spark notes version is the checklist and then the actual book or the actual, course is available in that program.

Kent Thalman 7:47

And in the same way, the spark notes of Shakespeare enriched your life. Almost none. Did that sentence come together in the end? It wasn't Shakespeare. the spark notes, it will, well, I'm saying my sentence. Wasn't Shakespeare. Um, the, the spark notes or the PDs. That will be helpful resource. And you know, maybe you could do it, but even if you already currently know what you need to do, knowing what you need to do and actually doing it in your life are two very, very big, very different things. And we're going to get into that later in the podcast. How the film of family academy actually addresses that very thing in addition to the steps or the very pragmatic instruction, which is valuable, but the true value lies in, getting you to a place where you actually do what you know you need to do and we'll get into what that is. Yeah.

Anna Thalman 8:39

That's a good point. So let's say you looked over the checklist and you're feeling curious. You want to know more. Maybe there's some steps on there, or even sections on there that you feel stuck on, or that seem intimidating. what you're going to do is go to invisible mansion.com forward slash film and family. You're going to sign up for a free consultation to meet with me. Now, you don't have to prepare anything. You just show up. I'm going to ask you some questions to get an idea of where you're at, what your goals are, where you're getting stuck. I'll give you some time to ask me any questions you have about the program, like exact details about the features, the price payment plan, options, whatever. And. If I think you're not quite ready. That's okay. I'll still give you some free help and send you on your way, but if it does seem like a good fit for your situation and your goals, then we can go ahead and I'll tell you how to sign up, how to reserve your spot for the next available time to get started. Are

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we

Kent Thalman 9:43

going to get an emergency? I don't know. You mentioned that

Anna Thalman 9:46

now. I didn't actually plan to get into it, but you can mention

Kent Thalman 9:49

it. Oh, well. So even if she doesn't feel it, that you're ready for any reason, the consultation does come with some or

Anna Thalman 9:58

just. But you could get a free t-shirt or whatever we're giving whatever we have on hand that's

Kent Thalman 10:07

promotional. It's a free t-shirt. Listen, the consultation is valuable. It's valuable in and of itself and it costs nothing. we are so convinced of the value of the consultation and. Of the subsequent membership in the film and family academy that we just want everyone as many people as possible, including people who may not be ready for the academy to go through the consultation because it'll help, you know, what you need to do to get ready for the program. If you're not ready now. And if you already it'll help you realize that you're a good fit and it'll help us realize that you are a good fit. So for offering a t-shirt or some related Merck,

Anna Thalman 10:45

Yeah. We know how it is. There's a lot of things in life they say, yeah, I'm totally going to do it. And then you just never get around to it. So having a little incentive makes it more fun. And we also just love giving out free stuff. We have the free podcast, the free checklist and the free consultation and some free, merge, which right now is a t-shirt.

Kent Thalman 11:05

It's a nice t-shirt and it's really comfy. Nice Logan. It's really cool. Logo.

Anna Thalman 11:13

You'll look really awesome. You'll look great. So it'll be, people

Kent Thalman 11:16

will ask you about the movies you're making, because they'll be like, what is that nice shirt? That guy looks legit, or that girl looks legit, or that kid who's wearing that romper looks like a legit baby. We

Anna Thalman 11:28

ordered little ones for our

Kent Thalman 11:29

kids. So you can get one, if you would prefer for your. And that's cool too. Do you just probably get one though? One per

Anna Thalman 11:39

yeah, one per signup, but you can pick your size if you want.

Kent Thalman 11:44

I can get you, you. Three year old to go through the consultation. He can get his own, no kids. Sorry.

Anna Thalman 11:53

you can have

Kent Thalman 11:54

kids.

Anna Thalman 11:57

We just, they're not ready to make feature films.

Kent Thalman 12:01

so discriminatory

Anna Thalman 12:03

anyway, so you do the consultation. and reserve your spot as soon as your payment goes through and you're all ready to go. You get immediate access to our membership portal. So in the portal you get our flagship course, which is the make your feature film course, which includes modules for every single step on this checklist to guide you as you go along. So you're basically looking at the table of contents of our flagships. Of course,

Kent Thalman 12:31

when you look at the checklist once you're into. We'll go into deep detail on exactly how to execute. Yeah.

Anna Thalman 12:39

We also have bonus courses on a bunch of different topics, like time management, leadership, parenting confidence, health, money, and career romance and relationships, all these things that might seem completely unrelated are just a bonus. And you don't have to use all that content. We don't want you to feel overwhelmed. you can consider this like a gym pass where you can show up and choose to work on what you want to work on with this applicable to you. So you don't have to go to all the classes or use all the resources, but they are available to you you'll have access to them all. And just so you know, it's a one-time payment for a lifetime membership, so no rush to get through all that content again, don't overwhelm yourself. You can move through it at your own pace when it makes sense to. Yeah.

Kent Thalman 13:32

So the main thing that we're selling here is the make your feature film, but that peripheral periphery periphery that for free content. Anyway, that other content is hyper valuable because this is not just film. This is film and family, and we'll get into more details on that regard. Anyone single married with kids with 12 kids with homeschooled, 17 kids, you know, whatever, or maybe you're single, but you're trying to date and you're trying to have relationships, but you feel like the film career is getting in your way. Or your day jobs getting in your way, we'll get into the circumstantial stuff, but anyone can learn the emotional and relationship intelligence and health skills to do all those things and have healthy relationships and healthy relationship with yourself and make feature films.

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Yeah.

Anna Thalman 14:24

This is really a program geared towards people who want that healthy life balance. one approach that many people. Try to take towards making it in the industry is abandoning your health, abandoning, any other pursuits and just full on diving into the film industry, which can lead to a lot of burnout and dissatisfaction with your life. If that. You're approached and fine. You can do that. I'm not telling you not to, you can go for it, but I've seen people do that and come out five years later, exhausted

Kent Thalman 14:58

or five or 10 years later, without any prospects for viable relationships or any prospects for viable film crew, because after three or four or five or 10 years, They're burnt out and they give up but we believe that you don't have to give up on your film career or your relationships. You can grow those things together and grow your life together as Mr. Roger says, because we're all one.

Anna Thalman 15:22

Yes. So. So that's all, coursework that's available to you on this online portal. And then the other part that's really actually the most valuable part and used to be the only part that we offered before creating course content is private one-on-one mentorship. So you'll receive private one-on-one coaching sessions. right now you get 12 sessions when you sign up and it's weekly. Where I teach you the tools of how to remodel any area of your life. And if you think about, you know, remodeling a house first, you have to learn how to use the hammer and the saw and all the basic tools. You're going to start on a very simple project to learn that. And then you can go add a new addition or, some bigger, more complicated project in your house. So we always pick one area to work on first and practice the tools together, and it doesn't have to be related to film. It can be, but it's just to learn how to apply the tools we're going to use in this program on a deep level. So once you're done with those sessions, you will be independently and confidently able to. Apply these tools to the various areas of your life. they're going to be essential in achieving that film life balance that you want while you make your film. And they'll also. The progress in actually applying it to your film career. Yeah.

Kent Thalman 16:49

Yeah. I just want to make this abundantly clear. It's more than just these coaching sessions help you feel happy inside and achieve balance. I mean, they might do that. These coaching sessions are more valuable than the cost of admission alone. The coursework is to kind of give focus and aim to this whole endeavor. But the coaching session is to give power to the whole endeavor. It is so valuable and like Anna said, and that was all, this was at the beginning. It was just 12 weekly coaching sessions. And we've seen total life transformations and huge career progress. In loads of clients, loads of people through this already. And there was no course content. There was no curated sort of focus. Objective in that way. so I'm, I just want to clarify just how valuable those sessions are. It's really the birth of this whole program is built around those 12 starting sessions. And then this lifelong membership, which includes the coursework is also, I think, worth more than the price of admission. So the two together are like being handed the keys. To a new home for the cost of an old car,

Anna Thalman 18:13

hard to explain the value of how much these tools will change your life until you just see it because you won't believe, you won't believe this. Probably just the results.

Kent Thalman 18:26

Look at the results of those who've gone before results, including in the single person, improved romantic relationships, improved career progress. Career progress built around stringent other day job work schedules around familial responsibilities. no matter what your circumstances are,

Anna Thalman 18:48

people pivoting their careers, completely pivot

Kent Thalman 18:50

and careers, making cross-country moves, doing whatever they need to do to get themselves in the right position while not undermining their deeper values. And so It's remarkable.

Anna Thalman 19:01

Yeah, really excited. We're excited to find them. I've invested becoming certified as a coach tens of thousands of dollars to improve my skills because these tools are so valuable and I want to be able to help you learn to use them the best that you can. but you will eventually become independent where you won't. My health as much, which is also great. It's not like you're dependent on me as a coach to continually coach you through everything. You will be able to use these tools to coach yourself and work on areas of your life yourself. so even once your sessions are done, you will also, you will, first of all, be more independent, but you will also still get more access to. places where you can get coaching and mentorship within the program. So no worries if you get stuck we're with you.

Kent Thalman 19:50

so for those of you listening in the future, let's say this podcast episode, because you've been perusing our podcast and getting a good load of the great programming content we have on this podcast, those of you in the future. Private coaching is probably not available for you. there might be group coaching available. the membership itself will still be available, but, but this is a warning. Private coaching is being phased out. So right now is probably the best time. If you were really valuing that private coaching aspect of this whole thing. To get

Anna Thalman 20:22

that. Yeah. If that's something you want, you need to sign up for one of the next few rounds. my time is just becoming really valuable so I could either increase the price of the program or the way that I offer it. I could change. I decided I want to keep the price the same. I really like that it's affordable and accessible. So I'll be phasing into group classes so I can help more people at the same cost. If you sign up now, you'll have that unique opportunity of not having to split your time with other members of a class. You'll have that privacy. If that's something you want, group classes can be great by the way, they can be really exciting. But if that is something you want, you'll want to sign up as soon as you can,

Kent Thalman 21:04

before that's gone. And if you're listening in the future and we've, and the program has moved on to. coursework, sign up. It's still worth way more than the price of admission. There are some advantages to group work, versus private. but that's just where the program is heading. it doesn't cease to be valuable. It continues to be more valuable than the cost of. Yeah.

Anna Thalman 21:24

And it'll just get more valuable with time because we'll have more experience working with more people and our own film, careers to offer you so it'll all just season and improve with time. Don't worry. now speaking of time, if you're worried about having time to do this, I get that I, as a young mom with three kids was still. Not thinking that I would have time to write prep and produce a feature film. when I was in school with a baby, I didn't think that I had time for one more thing, but I was wrong. You don't have to quit your day job or wait until your kids grow up to get started. You can do it with the time you have right now. So no matter what your circumstances are, you can find the time to get going. And we recommend that you do just because this first feature film is an inevitable step in the process of becoming someone who makes feature films for a living. And it usually takes people a few years. the longer you delay that, the harder it gets.

Kent Thalman 22:28

And if you can't see in your current circumstances, cause all of our vision is a little bit clouded in this life. If you can't see how you could fit making a feature film in your current circumstances, maybe you have. A day job it's really demanding, or maybe you are doing a lot of commercial video and you're like, what am I going to get a gap in clients? In my commercial video clients to make a feature? Or maybe you have. relationship demands like you're getting married soon or you're married or you have lots of kids wherever you have one kid, which is like plenty of demand there. whatever, we all have a lot of pressures on our time. Unfortunately, that's never going to change, but fortunately it doesn't have to, if you can't see how you can make a film in your current circumstances, we'll help you see it. That's a big part of the coaching value and you will see it so clearly and believe it's so deeply through this coaching program and you will learn how to open your own mind yourself by the end of it. Like Anna said, you won't become dependent on that coaching. You will be able to direct your life powerfully in whatever direction you choose. And if, yeah, if that direction is making feature films for a living, then this is the program for you.

Anna Thalman 23:45

Yeah. And a great thing about the way we've structured it is that you can do it on your own timeline step-by-step until you have a finished movie and no matter how long that takes you, we still honor our money back guarantee. So it's really, risk-free you get your feature film or you get your money back as the title of this podcast would suggest. So

Kent Thalman 24:06

are you going to make. Are you punk? If so, if you think you can't do it now, you're wrong. You can't do it now. If you want to do it now, it's good news to hear that you're wrong. Isn't it. So jump on and get a consultation and see what it is. I was quoting a clinic is kind of a bully. All right.

Anna Thalman 24:33

Yeah. there's no hidden fees. You won't need to put any more of your own money in besides the cost to join the program, which is very affordable. We're going to teach you how to secure financing, so you don't need to put your own money into making the film once you're in the only thing you need to invest is the time to complete each step and you can move as fast or as slow as you want to. So if you have lots of time, during a window of your life, you can blaze through some of these stages. If things are moving slow, you know, right now I'm on bedrest. Things happen that are unexpected. So if, something comes up and life's needs to slow down, you can take it slow. if you just have of an hour, a day during nap time, a lunch break during your day job, or maybe some times in the evenings, you can do that. And when you first get started, you actually just need 45 minutes a week for your coaching session. That's the minimum. And then from there, Again, self-paced.

Kent Thalman 25:34

Yeah. And if you're worried about not having that time, when you can't see where that time, but you still feel like you were ready as a human to make that next feature film will help you see that you have more time than you think you have through the coaching program. So once the 12 included sessions are over, you'll still have access to the additional mentorship, 24 7 through the ask, Anna or written coaching, in-person life.

Anna Thalman 26:02

Yeah, there's kind of, these in-person live calls. If you want to get coached, probably with a group or you can also write in and get a response and you can do that any time that you need some coaching, so we're available to help you. It's okay. Just clarify. So we're going to help you the whole way as you make your first feature film. And even as you repeat this process, you're going to want to rinse and repeat with subsequent films. You'll establish your own process and the boundaries for how you like it and

Kent Thalman 26:31

your reputation as a filmmaker, because you can't have a reputation as a filmmaker without making feature films.

Anna Thalman 26:38

So technically once you've made your first feature film, we consider you graduated from this program, but you still have access to all the courses and the coaching on your subsequent films, if you want it. So you can still follow these steps and refine it and get help when you need it.

Kent Thalman 26:56

So the investment required for this is not even close to the investment required for a semester of film school, like any film school on the planet, even really affordable ones. relatively speaking, and trying to fund year on feature with your own money is also going to be a lot more expensive than this program. and less you have a concept for a $2 feature film that I don't know. Possible, by the way, lots of zoom feature films coming out and you guys jump on that bandwagon. so a lot of people do that, right? They fund their own features because they don't feel equipped to secure financing through other methods, or they don't think they can quote unquote, ask people for money, which is a misnomer. In some ways, we're going to explain that financing model, Which is way more valuable, that one skill alone getting to that feature film financed that one skill alone is worth way more than the cost of admission to this program. If you meant your investment into this program equals a funded feature film. even a funded micro budget feature film. You've really gotten a great return. And, a lot of people who do invest in those other things that I mentioned, like film school, we have nothing bad to say by the way about film school on this podcast, we both our film school graduates, and it's really good for putting out good crafts people. but most of us graduated from film school, both undergraduates and graduates without ever have. Completed our own feature films and most film school graduates never do it. Never finished a feature film or someone family academy graduates will finish a feature film.

Anna Thalman 28:32

Yup. And because you'll know how to do the whole process from the start to end, no one can stop you from continuing to make feature films so you can grow and scale as much as you want. Unlike a lot of jobs and other industries. this one has no ceiling, so that's exciting too. Now I want to be upfront and honest right now, as we're recording this podcast. We still haven't completed our feature film from start to finish yet. So if you only want help with distribution, you're in post production, just like us, then maybe you can find someone with experience to help you with just that last step. I

Kent Thalman 29:12

try and find a mentor who knows more about that distribution phase. Not that we know nothing about it. We have a lot of excellent mentors in that phase and have read a lot of literature on it. And we are in. Throes of that process. So, you will definitely hear more from us on that. And the current course material is based on, a lot of the literature and mentorship we've received from others, but it will continue to be updated as we get deep into this. So if you are still in the place in your career where you're still trying to develop the idea, or you have a script that you're peddling around, that you've got a few drafts on, or you're trying to get funding, then this is really a good spot for you the program is going to get you through the writing process in a really good place where you're going to have a really solid script. It's going to get you through the funding process, where you're going to feel like you actually have the resources you need. And it's going to get you through the pre production and production process where you feel like you have at least a little bit of heads-up and mentorship, as far as how to get through those phases, they will also get you through the distribution process. but that's, we just want to be clear that we. In that phase currently.

Anna Thalman 30:23

We want to be upfront and transparent. we definitely thought about it. Waiting to start providing this guidance and these materials until after we had completely gone through the process ourselves. And we decided to just go ahead and get started because we have completed some of the hardest steps that most people want help with, like writing a script, creating a pitch, packet, financing, and prepping the project and production. So if you haven't done those steps, By the time you've done them, we'll have finished we're in post right now, production and we'll move into the last stage, which is distribution soon. So even though we haven't finished the distribution part, yet we do have a plan. And we've invested thousands of dollars and read thousands of published pages about deal-making and distribution in our industry. So we still have modules on that topic as Kent mentioned. and you can do the same thing. You can go invest in the same places and read the same textbooks, or you can let us pave the way we'll teach you as you go along how to do the same thing.

Kent Thalman 31:30

Yeah. Likely it's good to do both, but, there's a lot of value in having a mentor. There's a few steps ahead of you in the same process because the film industry today looks completely different than it did. 30 years ago, 20 years ago, even 10 years ago, festivals are changing. Distribution is changing. The technology of it is changing, in the industry. Route is changing. The studio route is changing, right? Netflix now a member of the MPW like that has just totally changed the face of our industry. So trying to figure out how to become someone who's breaking into this industry from someone who broken 20 years ago or 30 years ago. Dell Dell teach you how to become excellent craftspeople, but they might not be able to teach you how, as a young filmmaker to break into the industry in these current circumstances. And so that's another advantage to getting on board right now with us and letting us pioneer the way a little bit, a few steps ahead and teaching you these tools so that you can pioneer your own way in your own circumstances. And create a viable career in this field.

Anna Thalman 32:47

Yeah. Current we'll update our content as things change and we'll, continue to be coaching and mentoring people and knowing what it's like in the industry for beginners. but I have found in most areas of my life that when I can find a mentor, who's just a few steps ahead of me. That's actually ideal. They haven't forgotten what it's like and what they've learned because so much time has passed. And like Ken said, if someone's decades ahead of you, they have no idea what the industry is like for beginners anymore. So that actually can be a really a good spot to be. We also want you to know that we are not special. I think

Kent Thalman 33:27

we are.

Anna Thalman 33:28

What I mean by that is that we're not outliers. We're just normal people. We aren't,

Kent Thalman 33:35

we are at second generation millionaires.

Anna Thalman 33:37

I have special connections in the industry. Our film degrees are not from. Prestigious film schools. We're

Kent Thalman 33:44

not first-generation millionaires.

Anna Thalman 33:49

We don't do daycare. We don't do public school or even have family nearby to help with our kids. We homeschool our kids, which takes time. Right. So if we can do it, you can definitely do it too. And it was exciting for us to find something that worked for our own family situation. But it's been even more rewarding to see that this process works with every single one of our clients. We have yet to find someone whose circumstances prevent them from progressing their film career in this way.

Kent Thalman 34:20

So just as a last note, this isn't just about your film career. Obviously, if you've listened to our podcast, you've noticed that we like to share our perspectives this is not just all about film. We love films. They're much more important things in life than films. Right. And it's really important that we recognize that the things that are more important than filmmaking don't have to prevent us from filmmaking. And that's why we want to offer this. This is why this is so important to us. We feel like we have a unique perspective as, as, sort of unique people in the film industry to share through the stories that we tell, the movies we create and movies that we create that are about those things that are more important than movies. And we believe that. Those of you listening to this podcast called film and family are just like us. Not that you're the same kind of people that we are. You're also unique people, but you recognize that there are things in life that are more valuable than just filmmaking. And that's why you want so badly to. Combine this great passion that you have for film that you don't want to let go of or give up on with the things, you know, are more important than film like family and those things can be symbiotic they can coexist and we can help you figure out how to make that happen through this program in a way that is incredibly satisfying, like really. Joyful and satisfying.

Anna Thalman 35:53

If you're familiar with the mission of our production company, one, it's just to make great films and tell great stories. But the other part of our mission is we really want to help great people be able to be telling stories, people who are prioritizing those things that matter the most. I think you have important things to say and to offer that's not to say that there aren't important things being said in film already, because there are, but we want to make that more accessible for people who might feel like they can't have both or feel like they have to sacrifice and pick one or the other. So the beautiful thing about this program too, is that the tools you'll learn. Are part of the process of creation and the process of creation is the same. Whether you're creating a life or you're creating a film, it's remodeling existing materials into something with your vision and the tools that you learn to do. We'll help you create great films, but also a life that you love and your life is your greatest masterpiece. We don't want you to forget that film is just one piece of the big picture.

Kent Thalman 37:10

Yeah, but it's an important piece and we're going to help put the pieces together and help you create whatever life it is that you want, That's it for today. If you want to learn more or you think that film and family academy might be a good fit for you, go book your free consultation right now to find out.

Anna Thalman 37:26

Sign up at wwwdotinvisiblemansion.com forward slash film and family. Or just click the link in the show notes.

Kent Thalman 37:36

We'll see you next time. Bye bye.