Kent Thalman 0:06

Hi, I'm Kent.

Kids 0:08

Hi, Erin Marshall. Hi,

Kent Thalman 0:11

and this is film and family, a podcast for filmmakers with families in the film and television industries. Let's jump right in. Hit subscribe to never miss an episode. All right. You guys, today we are here with Marshall and Adeline Tolman. These are Anna and I's two oldest children. They were both in the feature film that we are currently ramping up post on, by wrapping up. I mean, we're probably in the throws of it. We're in the middle of it. But we're going to be speaking with them a little bit about. What it was like, and. How that was for them. Marshall is how old are you Marshall by you were definitely still five years old, Marshall and three years old Adeline. When you were doing the movie, do you feel like, do you feel like that was a hard thing to do and we made the movie together and line, what do you think. I don't know. You don't know if it was hard or not.

Marshal Thalman 1:10

It just kind of hide

Kent Thalman 1:12

what was kind of hard about it.

Marshal Thalman 1:14

When we were going out then wanting to him.

Kent Thalman 1:22

Oh yeah, there was a scene where we had to go up and down a hill quite a few times. That was when, when Marshall's character Eli loses his sister. You were playing the sister. What was the sister's name? Adeline. Thank you for sneezing on me, Marshall. But that was hard. Huh? Having to go up and down that hill. How many times do you think you had to go up and down that hill

Marshal Thalman 1:45

to

Kent Thalman 1:46

at least, huh? Yeah, lots of up and down. Marshall, do you feel like it was kind of. Yeah.

Marshal Thalman 1:53

So when I didn't want the mate, I was like, I want to help make the movie, but I, but I didn't really want to, at that time I was kind of angry and it was kind of. Hard making the movie.

Kent Thalman 2:14

What time are you talking about

Marshal Thalman 2:16

when I didn't want to get when I just didn't want the do it?

Kent Thalman 2:23

Yeah. Why do you think you got kind of angry? Yeah, sometimes I don't remember that stuff either. What was hard about it?

Marshal Thalman 2:34

Uh, just didn't want to do it so. Hmm.

Kent Thalman 2:41

But then were there days where you did want to do it? Uh, can you remember a time when you really wanted to make the movie or it was extra fun

Marshal Thalman 2:49

when I was raw, when I was at Huddleson pond and I was really close to home running hope. It was pretty funny. And fast, and it was really fun.

Kent Thalman 3:08

You were running you as you were running really fast. Yeah. That was over by Peachtree lake, not Huddleston pond. And I remember that day because you, uh, you were running and you had to run from the bridge all the way over to that first right turn. And we had a really long hundred millimeter lens. So it was zoomed in way close to you. And. Relatively long lens and you had to run as hard as you could all the way down that golf cart path. And I think you did that run. Boy, I think you did about six or seven takes of that and you ran a lot and then we had to go do more because you had to run past the camera for a profile shot. And then we were, do you remember when I was on the golf cart? Pointing the camera at you? Yeah. Yeah. And you had to run and what did you have to do then?

Marshal Thalman 4:02

You can't

Kent Thalman 4:02

remember you were still running home, but what was I doing? She did me. Yeah. I was taking video of you and I was on the golf cart with the camera. Huh. And you and we were just running right next to the golf cart. Yeah. Yeah. Marshall, you did so well that day you ran and ran and around. And that was after a long day. I think that was the same day that Adeline was saying you guys were on that big. What was your favorite part and line of making the movie?

Marshal Thalman 4:29

Um, when, when my show was waiting, um, fast and motion when Marsha was running and you would take care of him. When, when in golf plates came down and placed the ad, um, and near your place. And there's a place to add. WAF was adding often, right place

Kent Thalman 5:15

wow. I don't remember anything about waffles.

Marshal Thalman 5:19

When we were on the hill, um, there was, um, at, when we turned down, there's the waffle house right there. So

Kent Thalman 5:30

that's th th oh, you're right at the top of that hill. If we go a little further, there's a little shopping district there with a waffle house. That's good memory. You guys. Um, well, it's interesting to see what sticks. So this is pretty indicative of what it was like some days, um, uh, high energy with kids, sometimes low focus and sometimes people get the giggles. Do you guys remember being in the movie in the house? Do you remember? There were days where you guys were. Brando and scout

Marshal Thalman 6:05

and Claire. Yeah. I remember when, when we ended the movie and we were crashing down the wall.

Kent Thalman 6:15

Oh yeah. There's a part where we were crashing down the wall in our house for the movie. And what were you going to say? Marsha? What do you remember? I

Marshal Thalman 6:23

remember when we were doing dinner, eating the pastor. Also. I remember when, when I ran in the house, well there, um, Randall was breaking down the wall and he said, clay,

Kent Thalman 6:40

Oh, yeah, yeah. Well, that was lots of fun. Yeah. You guys remember when Brandon was crashing down the wall and you remember Marshall's some, some eating with the family. There are a lot of meal scenes in this movie, huh? Where you guys are eating breakfast. There's a breakfast one. There's a lunch one. And there's a, there's a dinner too in the movie as well. Um,

Marshal Thalman 6:59

when there's two there's one shift, but when they did the breakfast, the mom got really mad.

Kent Thalman 7:08

Yeah. I think that was a dinner scene.

Marshal Thalman 7:10

No, it was where, when she's like, um, why are you doing it? It's. Where are you waiting for? It's Doty school.

Kent Thalman 7:26

Oh yeah. Yeah. That was at the end of a, of a breakfast when your guys are yeah. She gets upset in months. You guys to go get on the bus, huh? Yeah.

Marshal Thalman 7:34

Do you guys remember doing the bus? Yeah. And one time we. Yeah, miss, um, miss the bus.

Kent Thalman 7:45

Yeah,

Marshal Thalman 7:46

I'm in Monday where we put eight sunglasses and when to stop. And he named, we hopped on the bus. I mean, mama got plate. Yeah.

Kent Thalman 7:59

Was that pretty fun to get on a bus there? Lots of fun things about making movies, huh? Yeah, I thought so too. There were some fun things that we did. Um, well,

Marshal Thalman 8:12

mommy and pike, um, when we go down stage and we really play in his toys, Nick. Erie and we pick up pitcher and never go back upstairs day mom, to get point, we're doing this in a

Kent Thalman 8:31

playroom. We're recording this podcast in our playroom. Yeah. Yeah. You're right. That is what we're doing. There were some scenes in the movie and this player, and two, not very many, but I remember Adeline fell asleep and we recorded a scene of her going to bed. And I remember there was also a scene where you guys are playing together and Marshall has an Audi on his arm and Claire was poking Eli's arm, teasing him. And he didn't like it very much. Um, well you guys, I want to talk a little bit about. What was, what do you feel like you learned? What did you learn from making this movie with us?

Marshal Thalman 9:07

It was hard. The go on the happy paddled pal, the bullets tarts paddle it. Cause at first I thought you did this pedal forward was Ashley made it backwards. It freely. Cool the pelts, because when you go like this, you push it forward. It goes backwards. And when you push the paddles backwards, it goes forward. Hmm.

Kent Thalman 9:36

Yeah. You had to, you had to learn how to, uh, do a little bit of work on a row boat. Huh? That was, that was one other thing that was hard. You know what I think was hard about making the film together as a family. Sometimes it kind of made it hard to, um, kind of just be a family. Uh, cause we had to wake up super early sometimes or stay up really late or sometimes we actually didn't see each other very much. Or are you going to say

Marshal Thalman 10:04

so also I was really hard cause I didn't want to fall away in. To the water, but there wasn't too shit, but I was afraid if I fell on my cushion, I might fall into the water, not the cushion on accident, but Amy was there and she had said, said anything real help. She'll help you. If you fall nine. Um, we stayed there. I had to get a few shots shots because, um, my, I got my arm up a little bit and they could see it. So we had them used some trucks, so I could stay still

Kent Thalman 10:47

default off the boat. And we had a little, a little floaty behind the boat. Yeah. Yeah. And we had to do it many times. Yeah.

Marshal Thalman 10:55

Um, I like it when they were flooding up those bumps, those bumps. And he is sitting there. Did you go out a dry boat?

Kent Thalman 11:21

I think he was thinking about when we went boating with grandma and grandpa. Yeah. Yeah. That wasn't part of the movie. Yeah. But that was fun. Yeah, that was a different thing. Sometimes it was hard to know the difference, I guess. Well, you know, one of the things I learned you guys, I think that if you guys are in another movie that we make, I think one of us will. Not working on that movie. So you always have a parent to be with that's something mommy. And I learned, in fact, I think for a while, mommy and I are going to not be on the same set at the same time. That's something we've decided so that we can keep one of us with. No, it was just something we learned about ourselves and maybe that'll change as you guys get older, but probably for awhile, we'll just, um, not be on the same set. What is it? Marshall. Yeah.

Marshal Thalman 12:14

Yeah.

Kent Thalman 12:14

What you're saying, what I'm saying. Yeah. You think that's a good idea. Do you think that'd make it easier? Yes. Why do you think that make it easier?

Marshal Thalman 12:24

Kaz? To, um, my mom and dad. Hmm. Yeah.

Kent Thalman 12:35

But do you like some of the other people you've gotten to meet who've helped take care of you

Marshal Thalman 12:39

sometimes. Yeah. Um, also we're for Kenyon and what is not really actually. For 10 years, the night type and the nails and, and ally and pees her pants in our real life. And, and I wake up and in my mommy said, well, the mommy and the character said.

Kent Thalman 13:09

Oh, yeah. Cause, cause there's a scene where Claire what's the bed. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You remember that? Yeah. Yeah. It was kind of interesting. What was it like having someone else play your mom or dad, was that hard to pretend or was that fun?

Marshal Thalman 13:25

It was not so hard when the mom was not so angry.

Kent Thalman 13:31

There were a few scenes where the grownups get angry.

Marshal Thalman 13:32

Huh? Yeah. I remember when we were pretending we were at school, but we were actually just outside walking with my grandma and a bus laugh, but we were pretending it was, we were not on the bus. But we went in the bus, we're actually in the house.

Kent Thalman 13:56

Yeah. And lane, what did you think about pretending that, that Brando and scout where your mommy and daddy went? Was that, was that hard or was that fun? Sometimes

Marshal Thalman 14:06

that was pretty,

Kent Thalman 14:10

pretty hard. Um, what was hard about it?

Marshal Thalman 14:15

Um, When I see she was when clay was making them cry, me fasc, and she wasn't gonna eat it. Then she sat her down.

Kent Thalman 14:36

Yeah. There was a scene where the baby was really fussy. Huh?

Marshal Thalman 14:40

um, it, she didn't like making the movie and she's really fussy, but it was, it was part is supposed to be like her really fasc. It was part of the movie.

Kent Thalman 14:56

Her being fussy was part of the scene. Huh. But I mean, babies can't pretend to be. Babies are actually happy or actually sad. Huh? Yeah. Was there anything that was really fun about pretending that someone else was your mommy and daddy? Nothing. That's fun. I think that it was, I think that Brenda and scout had lots of fun. Pretending was you guys Adeline? Was there anything fun about pretending someone else was your mom and your daddy?

Marshal Thalman 15:26

Um, was it kind of fun when, when Amy was Heidi, the cookies. And then give the cookie to him and he says, wanting the orange and in the. School score. I have no idea how to say this stroller story story, and then, well, well, brown Blando was giving us. That's the only part I remember. Oh yeah.

Kent Thalman 16:24

That there was a part where you're with, with Amy's character who plays Maya, the homeless woman and she, and she gave you oatmeal cookies. Uh, Great. Yeah, that was fun. I remember we ate a lot of oatmeal cream pies on this movie set because they were props and we ran out of that prop a few times and had to buy them. Well, you guys, I think that we all learned a lot as a family about ourselves. There were definitely things I'll do different next time. There were things that I really enjoyed. Bless you, Adeline. Um, did you want to say something Marshall?

Marshal Thalman 16:56

So, um, so. I wanted, I, I, I thought the cream cookies were yummy, but they were not healthy and it, it made my tummy not feel very good. Um,

Kent Thalman 17:13

yeah. I probably felt some of that too. When I would eat them, I would feel a little sick sometimes. Yeah. Well, These are all interesting things. We learned about food and about each other and about ourselves, we learned about maybe some things we would do differently next time, if we ever made some more movies together. Um, do you think we'll ever, do you think we'll ever make a movie again together? Marshall, do you think that you'll ever help me out on projects in the future? Oh yes. Oh yes. Why do you think.

Marshal Thalman 17:53

Because some of the parts of the movie, I was pretty good. So I think you like, um, help us. It helped me with some projects, like get in

Kent Thalman 18:05

the movie. Oh, you thought you were pretty good in the movie. Yeah. And so you'll think I'll want to help you on some projects in the future. Yeah. Maybe that's maybe that's true. I think you guys did good work line. do you think that you might want to do something like this again? Or, or do you think that was just like, uh, it was fun, but you don't want to do it again?

Marshal Thalman 18:26

Um, it is kind of fun, but I didn't really Monday.

Kent Thalman 18:38

You wouldn't want to do it again because you didn't remember it. Maybe it wasn't a very memorable experience

Marshal Thalman 18:43

for you. I mean, I want to do it again, but I didn't, they, we Monday they March.

Kent Thalman 18:50

Hmm.

Marshal Thalman 18:50

Um, I just really, um, think Adeline, um, said something not really actually true. She couldn't remember very much of it cause she was reminding me things like I couldn't remember. And she was. A lot of things. So I don't really believe she doesn't remember,

Kent Thalman 19:22

well, she remembers a few things, huh. And we all remember different things. Yeah. But you know, I've sometimes am surprised that even just a few months later, when I'm watching through footage for the scene, there's things. I don't remember. I watched through it and I go, oh, I didn't remember that we did that. Or that, that I said that thing on set or that I forgot about this thing, you know, there's. There's a lot who is 31 days. Did you know that the mommy, daddy worked on shooting the movie? Well, now that we're divulging into which hand is our left and right. That just about concludes our interview. You guys, I want to just say thank you to both of you for all your help and hard work on the movie. I know that was really hard on. Each of us individually. And it was hard on us as a family too, but we did, we learned a lot and it was lots of fun. And I'm really proud of us. I'm really proud of you Adeline and of you Marshall and I'm proud of mommy and of Eve. When I look at a lot of the scenes that we made together,

Marshal Thalman 20:23

My mom is right now in the hostel hostel because I, because my mom is pregnant and she, she has breathing in her tummy. She she's at the hospital, but when we were making the movie, um, She was not as, I couldn't actually get a bond to the wing. I couldn't actually get into the plane when there was a lively scene, few biplane scenes. And so she picked me up so I could actually do it under, so the camera couldn't see. There cause cause the, um, because, um, I was lost though. You don't want grown-ups around G w there was the plane pilot, and, and we were pertaining, I was asleep in the plane. Well, they actually sleep and, and we pretended the plane pilot started the engine and I woke up and it was like also, also when we were on ground, we hadn't the blankets for. I mean, try to get it because, um, because I was holding it on my lap, but when we were in there, the blanket didn't go away. I was holding on tight enough. But, but how, when not, when they thought, if he was holding it on his lap, then it should fall. Also. They had me pretend it fell off and then. Hmm.

Kent Thalman 22:20

Yeah. Do you remember how we figured that out? How we got it to make it look like the blanket gets sucked out?

Marshal Thalman 22:26

Yes. How did we do that? Uh, I think with a leaf blower and that it gives squirter, um, Michael. Yeah,

Kent Thalman 22:42

got Richard. Our B camera operator, Richard. Born was, was shooting with us and he was operating the leaf blower for that shot. But the leaf blower wasn't with such the, uh, the, uh, blanket out. What we did was we actually threw the blanket into the cockpit and played it in reverse. And I thought it looked pretty good.

Marshal Thalman 23:04

Why reverse?

Kent Thalman 23:07

Because when you throw the blanket into the cockpit and play it in reverse, it looks like it flew out. We had to do some tricky timing to make that work beat for beat. We did a few takes, but you were really good at looking down. Looking up while you were looking up and then you looked down at your lap and then we threw the blanket in so that it looked like the blanket flew out. And then you looked at it when it flew out. What were you going to say handling?

Marshal Thalman 23:29

Uh, no way when, um, We just play with Amy. Is that hill. Hey Marsha. My mom said, I don't remember.

Kent Thalman 24:11

Oh, you remember running around with Haney cause she was running away with you. Yeah, I remember that. I remember you guys had to go on the steps by the library and Ms. Amy had to do, I think about 20 takes. Because we were trying to get you to look up at the sky and say align. And that was very difficult to get just right, because we were on a very tight lens and you're running down the stairs and she had to hit a very specific mark. And you had to deliver your line just at the same time. And that was kind of tricky for you to. I think we had to do that about 20 times. And miss Amy had to go up and down the stairs on a hot day with a coat on, over and over and over again. Do you remember that? I remember that right by the library. It was a, that was a tough day. That was a tough scene to shoot, but we got it. I don't remember that. Yeah. You were at home that day. While you guys, thanks so much for doing this podcast episode with me. Can you say bye.

Marshal Thalman 25:10

Bye. Bye. I love you.

Kent Thalman 25:14

We love you too. Thanks Marshall. Thanks. I line.